Sam Carter/Jack O'Neill Ship Discussion Thread - Page
“But what about SG-1?” some of you will (and have) asked. Why didn't you ever confirm the Sam/Jack relationship in SG-1 but found the need. Why the Stargate fandom can officially declare Sam/Jack canon (even the relationship between Samantha Carter and Jack O'Neill has never been. it has been hinted at in both SG-1 and SGA, as well as in interviews with writers, but despite that there's still a hell of a lot of support for this perfect ship. As a fan of Stargate SG-1 I began rolodexing my mind for the key moments or turning points in Amanda Tapping shared her reflections on the Carter/O'Neill relationship in Sci Fi Magazine in August . Thanks for the advice.
They are all trying to find answer to their problem before they fall asleep and die. Then out of nowhere, for no reason, and without a solution in mind SGC personnel come and rescue everyone and everything's fine.
And does Sam ever work with tech anymore? I'm beginning to think she actually got a medical degree while at Area Couldn't they have made the solution something technological instead of biomedical?
I mean really, a giant lizard? Pegasus Project This episode once again shows what a great storyteller Brad Wright is. It is a very enjoyable and satisfying episode for me. I like that Daniel finally gets to Atlantis, but it's a shame he is stuck in the hallo room the whole time. I don't understand, however, why they brought Vala along. She's not a member of SG1 at this point and she doesn't have any expertise to offer.
She's just there to hang on Daniel and annoy him and ME. I always liked those two together. At one point Cam steps in and stops McKay from basically sexually harassing Sam.
That may be because he has a chivalrous protective streak he stopped another SG Team from speaking disrespectfully about Dr. Lam at one point. Insiders I hate that the gou'ald controlled Trust likely headed by Baal is brushed aside and not being that important in the new era of the Ori threat. It seems symbolic of the show's direction in general. There's the old Stargate and then there's are shiney new version that is far more important.
And doesn't it just seem like Baal isn't as scary anymore? When things got even more serious and Sam was considering whether to say yes to Pete's marriage proposal, she asked O'Neill for advice on having a family, and he was once again supportive of her 8.
However, while she continued dating Pete, it was clear she had not fully resolved her feelings for O'Neill. When O'Neill was struck by a staff weapon blast, she left her position to go to him while the battle was raging. While grieving for Janet, she admitted to O'Neill that she was glad he was alive, and her concern seemed to be more than that of a friend and subordinate 7.
After O'Neill took the Ancients' download, knowing that his mind would be taken over and that he might die, Carter twice tried to share her feelings with him. The first time, they were interrupted by Daniel and Teal'c's arrival and O'Neill's home, and the second time, O'Neill cut her off with brusque "I know" 7.
She told him she was having second thoughts about the wedding and that there was a reason she was telling him about it. However they were interrupted by O'Neill's girlfriend, Kerry Johnson, and Carter was never able to say what she had come to say.
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In any case, perhaps prompted by Jacob's dying words telling her to find a way to be happy, Carter broke up with Pete 8. Later, O'Neill was promoted to Major General and transferred to Washington, and she was transferred to Area 51 on her next promotion. Whether or not either acted on any romantic feelings is unclear, but technically as head of Homeworld Security, General O'Neill was still in Carter's direct chain of command.
Once when injured, she mentioned "fishing" was a password to personal computer files--a hobby more associated with Jack O'Neill When Sam later was transferred to Atlantis, she brought pictures of all of her old teammates, including more than one of O'Neill, as well as pictures of her father and Cassandra; these pictures decorated her office and personal quarters SGA 4. She had opened herself to the possibility of a relationship after her bout of self-examination on the Prometheus.
As their dating became more serious, Sam seemed very playful and happy when with Pete, and it was clear that he was very much in love with her. Pete had a bit of trouble in his childhood, and a cop helped him out. That in turn inspired his career choice. Unhappily, his wife divorced him over the long hours and uncertainty. Pete could not overcome his curiosity about Sam's job, which he did not believe involved deep space telemetry.
She finally had to admit that she wasn't allowed to tell him. That only piqued his curiosity further, and he followed her to the stakeout of Daniel's house. Because he had seen so much already, Sam was given permission to tell him all about the Stargate Program 7. Presumably their dating continued, although Sam continued to demonstrate feelings for O'Neill as well.
When Carter was taken prisoner by Fifth, Fifth presented her mind with an idyllic existence, married to Pete and living on a farm on Montana. Fifth must have believed this would be an effective way to insert himself into her subconscious in a form that she would love and trust so that she would eventually believe the false life he had created.
She realized the man in the dream was not Pete when he began to express resentment toward her 8. She was very happy to hear that, and in the next moment he produced a ring, and presumably proposed to her. Carter did not say yes right away, and expressed to O'Neill her doubts about being married given the risks they take going through the 'Gate and about having children in such an environment.
O'Neill thought it would be possible to have children but admitted that if things had been different for him, he would no longer be there. Finally after more than two weeks of consideration and a successful rescue of Daniel which Pete participated in, Sam gave a sincere and enthusiastic 'yes' to his proposal 8. As the wedding approached, however, Carter seemed reluctant to participate in the preparations and was embarrassed to even be caught talking to Pete about them.
Pete's meeting with Jacob was awkward to say the least, and Jacob was not overly impressed. When Pete showed Carter the house he had placed a down payment on for them, she reacted more with trepidation than pleasure. Her case of cold feet building momentum, she went to visit O'Neill to discuss her misgivings and the reasons for them, but she was interrupted by the presence of Kerry Johnson and then by news that her father was very ill.
On his deathbed, Jacob told her he wanted her to be happy and implied that he didn't believe she was with Pete. The combination of her fear of Earthly married life, her father's lack of enthusiasm for Pete, and her persistent feelings for O'Neill was too much for the relationship, and Carter broke up with Pete in front of the house he had planned to buy. Pete was not completely surprised and did not beg or lash out at her, to her surprise.
He said goodbye and walked away, and it is unlikely she ever saw him again 8. Other Relationships Carter loves children and adores being an auntie, even though she has doubts about the practicality of being a mother given her career. While on P3X she was enchanted by Nafrayu, a young Nox boy, but O'Neill jokingly suggested that she not bring the child home with her 1. She also took quickly to Cassandra, a Hankan orphan and the last survivor of her people 1.
Fraiser discovered the little girl had been converted into a bomb by the Goa'uld Nirrti, Sam refused to leave her even when she believed she would die with the girl when the device inside Cassie exploded. She and Cassie were very close after that, and in a sense she helped Janet to raise Cassie.
Sam played chess with the girl every Saturday when she was at home 5. When Janet was tragically killed, Cassie was about 18 years old. Sam took some responsibility for Cassie still, leaving Teal'c to go pick her up at one point.Stargate SG1 - Carter Vs. Supersoldier (Season 7 Ep. 16) EDITED
It can be assumed that she continues to act in a guardian role to Cassie 7. Sam was also quite fond of Merrin, an Orban child-genius who helped her create a naquadah reactor. Merrin was surprised to discover Sam's delight at solving problems on her own, rather than being given the knowledge, as Orban custom dictated.
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This was part of the girl's legacy when she underwent the Averium procedure and gave her knowledge to all Orbans. Sam also taught Merrin to draw, showing her a stick figure of herself 3. Her best friend was Dr. Janet Fraiser, as evidenced especially by the way they raised Cassie together. Janet was the one Sam could talk to as an equal and confidante, and they worked very well together.
Janet's death undoubtedly left a huge hole in Sam's life. She has a very close relationship with Daniel. Daniel seems to understand her, and that makes him very special in her estimation. While in the virtual world on P7J, Sam was witness to one of Daniel's most private and traumatic memories: This event brought them even closer together afterward. She believes her relationship with Daniel has changed her for the better, and confessed this to him as he lay dying of radiation poisoning 5.
Jack replied that "things change", and so it seems at last this wound had healed somewhat 7. Jack was unable to communicate with his wife Sara when Charlie killed himself. He felt her anger and understood that she blamed him, but wasn't able to open up to her, to let her in through what she called his "armor", and so they couldn't help one another through their grief 1.
She left him while he was on the first mission to Abydos. However, Jack remained in love with Sara for a long time after she divorced him and continued to care for her deeply. Almost two years had passed when Jack lay dying in an ice cavern in the Antarctic, yet he still called out to his wife 1. Even eight years after the accident, he had a picture of Sara on display in his home. However, he declined to tell Carter whether or not they were still in touch 7.
Romantic Interests Jack has had a few off-world romances. Kynthia married him according to Argosian custom, though he was not aware that he was being wed at the time. The ceremony involved eating a cake infused with mind-altering drugs, followed by the traditional wedding night, from which Jack awoke terribly embarrassed and confused. The marriage lasted for a period of a few days 1. Also of note was a relationship with Laira on the planet Edora P5Con which Jack was marooned for approximately three months.
He may also have fathered a child with Laira, but chose not to find out. To his credit, he did ask her to return with him to Earth, but Laira declined, choosing to remain on her world without him 3. It was a somewhat serious relationship: Jack didn't intend for anyone at the SGC to know about the relationship, but Sam Carter stumbled upon it when she visited Jack to tell him of her doubts about marrying Pete Shanahan.
Soon after that encounter, Kerry broke up with Jack, telling him that he had issues, seemingly implying that he really wanted to be with Sam. Kerry suggested he retire so Air Force rules and regulations would no longer keep Jack and Sam apart. Jack did not argue with her, but he also did not retire 8.
Samantha Carter He shares a strong bond with Samantha Carter, even though they have few interests or characteristics in common. He may at times have had a romantic interest in her, although it's not known whether he still does. As head of Homeworld Security, while she is a Colonel in the Stargate Program, he is still in her chain of command. So, if they are seeing each other romantically, it is against military regulations.
He has shown romantic attraction to her on a few occasions: When he believed she might be dying following an Ashrak assassination attempt, he shed a tear in the infirmary emergency room 2. When a Carter from an alternate universe came through the quantum mirror seeking assistance, he discovered the Jack and Sam in that universe were married and Jack had been killed.
In an attempt to console her, he kissed her 3. While on a mission to destroy Apophis' new starship, Sam was caught behind a force field, and he refused to leave her behind 4. He later admitted that he could not acknowledge his feelings for her even to himself, when accused of being a Zatarc — a Goa'uld "sleeper" programmed to assassinate. He said he would rather die himself than lose her, and that he cared for her a lot more than he's supposed to.
It could be argued this sentiment applies to all his teammates; they are his family, above and beyond simple members of his team 4. During a time loop in which the same day repeated over and over, in one loop he tendered his resignation to Gen. Hammond in the gate control room solely so he could kiss Carter. This may have been to relieve his growing boredom rather than a serious attempt at romance, since he was dressed very casually and made no attempt to woo her first 4. After having his personality replaced with a falsified memory stamp, he believed he was a former miner named Jona.
He said he remembered "feeling feelings," possibly for her, but was vague about the admission 4. When Sam's body was invaded by an unknown entity, he was forced to shoot her twice with a zat'nik'tel.
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Afterward, he was inconsolable, and refused to have her taken off life support. Thankfully, her consciousness was found and returned to her body before it was too late 4. He was reluctant to leave her side as she went on a dangerous mission against Anubis while he went to rescue Daniel from Honduran kidnappers, and he invited her to lunch when she returned 7.
He was uncharacteristically abrupt, angry, and frustrated when the ship Prometheus went missing with Carter aboard, and Teal'c felt the need to console him 7. He consoled Carter after Janet's death, though this could be interpreted as friendship 7. Similarly he comforted her after her narrow escape from a super soldier 7.
After taking a potentially fatal download of the Ancients' knowledge, he had several personal, if awkward, conversations with Carter, but never openly explained his feelings 7. He consoled her in the observation room as Jacob lay dying and told her he would always be there for her 8. He asked her to go fishing with him on numerous occasions, but she consistently declined until finally the whole team went together 8.
She expressed regret that they hadn't gone before, but Jack told her not to dwell on the past. At least while he was at the SGC, Jack seemed to hold their military mission in higher regard than any personal gain he might get out of a closer relationship with Carter. While on P4X under the influence of the hypnotic Light, his emotional control slipped and he made clear to her the importance of maintaining chain of command, regardless of how long they might be marooned off-world 4.
He later expressed approval that Carter was apparently dating, and only socialized with her when other team members were present 5.
When Sam began dating Pete Shanahan 7. Whatever his feelings, he seemed happy for her to have moved on with her life. This continued when Sam was considering Pete's marriage proposal, when he again encouraged her to be happy and to have a family, even if his experience in that area had ended badly 8.
He further tried to reassure her when she went to his home to express doubts about her impending marriage to Pete, and he was surprised that she was having second thoughts. It is not clear how he reacted to the news of Sam's break-up with Pete. He did not take Kerry Johnson's advice to retire so that he and Sam could be together legally 8. Jack is apparently conscious of the occasions when Carter shows intellectual contempt for him, for example ordering her to try to deactivate a Goa'uld door-locking mechanism, despite her comments about stupidity regarding the making of the lock, then walking away from her to join Daniel.
Carter picked up on her C. He let Carter know that he thought she was tense from the moment he met her and advised her unkindly to take up knitting when she admitted she had no life outside the SGC 5.
He has also openly exhibited his impatience with her scientific interests on a number of occasions, for example, turning and walking away from her while she was talking to him about changing the face of physics 3.
Hammond after one of her lengthy hypotheses 5. When she attempted to discuss the death of Daniel with him, he was extremely brusque with her and brushed her off 5.
Jack also openly undermined Carter before their peers, as in his heckling of her during her briefing for the mission to cripple the super-weapon which gave Anubis his tactical advantage over the system lords 7. When Carter was away from the team performing a complete overhaul of the Stargate's diagnostic system, Jack, her team leader, didn't even trouble himself to remember what she was engaged on, dismissing it as her 'science project' when she called in to see him in the infirmary after he was wounded by the Unas.
Rather than talk to Carter when Daniel left them, Jack lay down and turned his back to her 7. When she came to visit him before his mind became overcome by the Ancients' download of knowledge, he did not seem happy to see her, and their conversation was painfully awkward.
Later, when he gave her command of the mission, she wanted to tell him something presumably personal, but he immediately stopped her, sounding irritated that he might have to deal with any feelings 7. After Jack moved to Washington, Sam made a reference to not being exactly single, but she never said for sure it was Jack she was seeing 9.
The last few times Jack visited the SGC, there was no indication of a romantic connection between them Therefore it is uncertain whether they are currently pursuing a romantic relationship in spite of Air Force regulations that prohibit it.
Teal'c In spite of being something of a loner, O'Neill spends some of his free time with his Jaffa teammate, Teal'c. His relationship with Teal'c is one of equals — warrior to warrior — and he relates well to his alien counterpart. He is extremely loyal to his teammates, and though Teal'c is an alien, Jack does not treat him like one: From the very beginning, he offered a place in his home to this near stranger, because of the sacrifice Teal'c made to save him and the other prisoners of Apophis 1.
Often when he has leave from active duty, he invites the Jaffa to go with him. Most of the time, this pursuit of leisure activities involves fishing, but sometimes, watching videos with other team members or Jello wrestling are involved 5. Though Jack had the opportunity to leave the labyrinth of Thor's Hammer, he refused to do so since Teal'c could not accompany him and would have been trapped there as long as the Hammer still functioned 1.
Accused and later convicted of murder on P3X CartagoTeal'c chose to accept retribution from one of his victims rather than leave as ordered by O'Neill. Jack was ready to bring armed troops back through the stargate to free his teammate, but Gen. Hammond refused to engage in hostile action against a peaceful people, even to rescue one of the members of SG-1 1. Teal'c was the prime suspect in an attack on Cronus during his visit to the SGC for the purpose of treaty negotiations with the Asgard, but Jack refused to believe Teal'c was the culprit and assisted with the investigation to prove his innocence 3.
During the events of the time loop that trapped Jack and Teal'c in a repeating day for the possible period of several months, the two men engaged in many acts of frivolous play to relieve the stress and boredom, most notably, golf in the gate room and juggling in Daniel's office 4.
At one point during the mission to test the X Interceptor, Teal'c expressed to Jack how honored he was to have served with the man. Jack was so moved he experienced a rare bout of not knowing what to say in return; however, he also felt the same way toward his Jaffa teammate when Teal'c stated they were brothers 4.